130507.1 Brief and Clear Proof that God Doesn’t Exist and that Even if He Existed, No Entity Could Know Anything About Him

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If an infinite in everything God existed, He would be infinitely far from humans, or any natural or paranatural being, and therefore, He would be practically Nonexistent

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By ddxinet, updated:    2013-06-05 17:42 UTC

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We will present you with a series of theorems and its demonstrations.

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First, we will present the most important thesis, which happens to be the one that uses the most familiar and known of logical procedures, and after that we will present some more sophisticated but, fortunately, less important thesis and his demonstrations.

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Let us begin with the most easy to understand theorem.

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Theorem 1357.1

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 If The Supreme God Exists Then No Entity Inferior to Him Can Know, With Certainity, About Any of His Will and Characteristics.

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The Brief Demonstration

No intelligent being X that is not the Maximum God can KNOW anything about such God because always CAN exist more intelligent and powerful beings than X,  between X and the Maximum God in power and intelligence, that CAN deceive X about the Maximum God.

— We have thus demonstrated the theorem.

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Didactic form of this demonstration

  • No intelligent being X that is not the Maximum God
  • can KNOW anything about such God
  • because always CAN exist more intelligent and powerful beings than X
  • between X and the Maximum God in power and intelligence
  • that CAN deceive X about the mentioned God.

The Long Demonstration

We can not KNOW anything about any given God, because if that God exists, then could exist species between us and Him, more intelligent and powerful than us, and so some member of that species CAN say  that he is that given God and deceive us.

The existence of this possibility INVALIDATES the possibility that any given species of the Universe can KNOW anything about God.

Analogously, no given human or member of any intelligent species can KNOW anything about pure energies, spiritual transformations or enlightenments.

— We have thus demonstrated the thesis.

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The Extremely Long Demonstration

Humanity, or any intelligent species in the Universe, is finite and limited in its intelligence.

Let us assume that the God creator of the Universe exists.

Neccesarily that God should be very much more intelligent then any species in the Universe.

Then, given any intelligent species in the universe, there exist the possibility that exist some other more intelligent species, of natural beings or sobrenatural ones.

Then, given any individual or group of individuals that enter in contact in some way with some entity that says that it is God CAN BE deceived by some superior in intelligence and power entity that it is not God.

Therefore that individual or group of individual have no way to know if its true that any autodeclared God is relly God or not.
Then no any given intelligent species in the Universe have a way to know if they know something about God, or they are being deceived.

— We have thus demonstrated the thesis.

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 Remarks

  • To know some assertion implies not having any (serious”) uncertainity about it.
  • We have in this ways proved that nobody, except God, can KNOW anything about Him.
  • The important is Not the Proof that God Doesn’t Exist, but that No Entity Can Know Any of His Will and Characteristics.

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We can advance an obvious generalization of the past thesis:

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Theorem 1357.2

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If the maximum God exists, then no entity could have any CERTAIN knowledge about the Universe, except the most elementary about himself.

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Demonstration

It is essentially the same demonstration that the past thesis.

The hipothesis assure as that, given any groupf of entities X, then it can exist a superior group of entities S, inferior than the Maximum God but superior to X, that can deceive  X about any experiment related to the real world that X  perform in such a way as to make X infere false laws of the Universe.

— We have thus demonstrated the thesis.

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Remarks

  • Corollary 1357.4    … In order to evade that we can not achieve and verify a set of rational concept and image of the Universe, we must conclude that the Maximum God does not  exist.

 Exercise

  • If a powerful light with voice as thunder appears to you and it says that is a god, the only god, and that it created the Universe, Would you believe “him” ?… Assume that you are at the top of a mountain in the middle of a desert.

What have we done ? … We have demonstrated, by reduction to the absurd, in a way that, we have to admit, is easier to understand to the rational persons, that the Gods do not exist .

Of course, in this context, the existence of God means that He exists not only as a thought  or “computanional process” of some machines or organic minds, but exists independent of the existance of any organic or material species in the Universe, and with some mind and some body of some substance, independently “floating” somewhere in the Universe or in some Super-Universe that in some way  includes our Observable or Inferable Universe. If some God would cease to exist if some “material” species cease to exist, then that God is not a Real God. We should call it a “Virtual God“.

The essence of the idea is that the concept of a “God creator of the Universe“, or with some  other “super characteristics”, as those especulated by some people around 700 years BCE,  are of such exaggeration and magnitude, that we got to serious absurdities, clear at least  to the persons that believe in the possibility of a rational knowledge and understanding of the Universe, who are part of those who “believe in  Science”.

Of course, some intelligent people around 2700 years ago discovered  that the Gods proposed till those times were absurd, and would come to be discovered to be absurd even to the ordinary ignorant persons with the centuries, and so they invented some concepts that we could describe as “Super (Stone Age) Gods“,  in order to continue having the “religious force” to help them control the rest of humanity.

Remember: Religion lowers the cost per person  to control the masses.

By “Stone Age God” we mean God who is a kind of clan chief with super powers.

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Now, let us study a harder to understand, but happily, less important thesis.

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Theorem 1357.3

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The Gods do not Exist in the Real World.

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Demonstration

Rationally, the only things that we can accept as valid are:

  • The evidences of the real physical world, 
  • The propositions or statements, which we will call “rational propositions”, that we define as those statements demonstrated using only  some evidences  and  some previous “rational propositions”,  and 
  • The “Principles and Models Guide”, which are unprovable as true elements, but have been useful to discover new evidence or new “rational propositions”, in a way similar to the “princple of te conservation of energy-momentum” of Physics.

Of course, the only statements that we can accept as TRUE, when we chose the rational view of the Universe, are such rationally valid statements.

As any hypothesis of the existence of any God, of the Gods proposed until this times,

  • is neither an evidence,
  • nor it is demonstrable from evidences,
  • nor have been proved to be useful guides to get rational knowledge,

then, rationally speaking, we have to reject the validity of all those hypothesis. This, in other words, means that no God, of those proposed until this day, exist.

— We have thus demonstrated the theorem.

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Remarks

  • It is obvious that the only rational building of kowledge is Science.
  • One of the explanations for the existence of the current popular concepts of God is trivial to find, and it is that all of these concepts of God have appeared as a result of conspiracies of the class of people capable of lying and using everything to get power and privileges over the rest of humanity.
  • In fact it is very easy to admit that similar lies existed before our hominid ancestors evolved into the current homo sapiens sapiens, because in this way we can explain the current genetic tendency of some fraction of humanity to be the flock of some religion.
  • The truth often goes unnoticed because of its simplicity.
  • The kind of logical rules used to demostrate this thesis are not very common, but are very well known, implicitly,  by the students of Science.

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